Poll: What Do You Think Of Gov. Cuomo's Gun Control Proposal?

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Gov. Cuomo address legislators and audience members at the State of the State (stock photo). Photo Credit: Jessica Glenza

ALBANY, N.Y. - Gov. Andrew Cuomo proposed a seven-point gun control agenda in the 2013 State of the State address Wednesday, including the "toughest assault weapon ban in the nation."

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What do you think of Gov. Cuomo's gun control proposals?

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What do you think of Gov. Cuomo's gun control proposals?

  • I agree with the governor, the state needs tighter restrictions on guns.

    38%
  • I don't agree with the governor's proposals, the state already has gun control measures.

    62%
  • I don't have an opinion.

    0%
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"No one hunts with an assault rifle, no one needs 10 bullets to kill a deer," Cuomo said. "Too many people have died already. Pass safe, reasonable gun control in the state of New York."

Gun control has become an important issue for lawmakers following last month's deadly shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut. Many politicians have been calling for tighter regulations on the sale of guns and ammunition.

In addition to a stricter assault rifle ban, Cuomo called for the state legislature to close the private sale loophole by requiring federal background checks, ban high capacity magazines, and enact tougher penalties for illegal gun use. Cuomo specifically referred to illegal uses such as guns on school grounds or guns used in gang violence.

"Keep guns from people who are mentally ill," said Cuomo. "Ban direct Internet sales of ammunition in New York."

Cuomo also called for ammunition sales in New York to be run through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, known as NICS. This system is currently used to background-check anyone purchasing a gun from a licensed federal gun dealer.

Gun control legislation was enacted by Republican Gov. George Pataki, in 2000. Some of New York's current gun control measures include background checks at all gun shows and a ban on certain types of assault rifles. Pistols are required to be registered and permitted in New York. Long guns and shotPol guns are legal, but do not require permits.

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Vinnygoombada:

@somerezy

You are a knucklehead

somersrezzy:

this is why I bring it up and this will be my last post on this matter regardless of what you write after it because I have other things to do than continue this conversation - even if Hitler were the President of the United States, you would have no legal right to shoot him. The world would be better off and morally you would be right, but you as an individual would have no legal right under the 2nd Amd or otherwise to shoot the President no matter who he is for tyranny reasons. Nor do you have a right to shoot drug lords who aren't threatening to kill you or your loved ones nor do you have a right to hunt down Muslim fanatics who aren't attacking you or your family, etc. Individuals cannot legally shoot others in this country for reasons other than self-defense and the 2nd Amd. does not give anyone the legal right to shoot people for reasons other than self-defense and therefore individuals don't need to legally own guns for reasons other than legally permitted hunting of animals or for self-defense. Any individual can join the military or the police or national guard, CIA, FBI, etc. and protect this country from domestic or foreign threats if that is what he wants to do and that is what they are all there for. The rest of the stuff you spout is just vigilante justice and illegal regardless of morality and gun control is about legality not morality.

NSSgt:

James Madison and Thomas Jefferson, real vigilantes. It is a shame that so many brave men and women have sacrificed everything to protect your freedom and you do not have a clue. I hope you get it before you are led off to the showers.

angel125:

He did sound like a loon.I had to turn down my t.v. but...have you noticed how hyped up the news media is by telling every shooting everywhere? When they started telling about the ones in the city I knew it was just to frighten people about guns. Brainwashing with a capitol B .....Just my opinion.

Vinnygoombada:

When seconds are the difference between life and death.....

The police are always just minutes away.... 911....

Lock and load

firefighter350:

Everyone knows how difficult it is to obtain a pistol permit in NYS so I won't comment on that. However, The state of NY is one of the few in this country that kept the assault weapons ban of 1994 when it sunset. These guns are already regulated here. High capacity magazines are only allowed if they were manufactured and sold prior to Sept. of 1994. No new high capacity magazines can be sold or possessed in NYS. As far as closing loopholes in gun show sales, the last three shows I attended had signs posted in and out of the building warning that casual sales of firearms was illegal and prohibited at the show. If anyone was caught selling any firearm in the parking lot they would be subject to arrest. All sales had to be conducted by a Federal Firearms licensed dealer with a background check. So someone tell me.....what was Cuomo screaming about?!?

Vinnygoombada:

You must have background checks...
You must register your hand gun....
You cannot own a firearm if your mentally I'll...
Convicted felons cannot own firearms....
You cannot bring firearms onto school grounds...

We already have these laws.....

But you this time... we really really mean it...lol

Vinnygoombada:

Well I'm stocking up now...for the next 20yrs

Vinnygoombada:

Disagree with Cuomo.

We have laws, more laws are just smoke and mirrors its an easy way to look good politically. But, in reality its just giving the public a false sense of security.
The more complex question is, why do young people feel so desperate and value life so little that they would resort to these acts?
Fix the family in our society, and the guns will become irrelevant.

dabby:

You can pry my legal weapon from my cold, dead hand.

Kyle Scott:

The second amendment isn't there for hunting, Gov. It's there so citizens can protect themselves from tyranny-foreign or domestic.

somersrezzy:

wrong - it's for a "well regulated militia" not for individuals to decide they don't like their own govt. and then try to take it over by guns. the FBI and others will be thrilled to check you and all you others out there who think you have a right to arm yourself for these purposes. VOTING is how you legally change your govt.

NSSgt:

The Second Amendment is precisely for individuals. It does not grant, but rather it enumerates and guarantees the basic right of self defense. When James Madison used the term "well regulated Militia", he was not referring to a military governed by regulations, i.e. the Army or National Guard. He was referring to individual citizens who may have a need to come together. The adjectives "well regulated" refer to a group of citizens who were well practiced and in good order. It is a goal. In order to be well practiced, individuals needed to have arms. The right to bear arms therefore must not be infringed. Individuals bearing arms is the beginning point of the concept, any regulation or involvement flows from that right, not the reverse.

somersrezzy:

if you think based on the 2nd Amd you have a legal right to kill the Governor or try a coup to take over his office because you don't like his politics, you are crazy. any plot to take over any govt office in this country by guns will find you dead or in jail.

Francis T McVetty:

somersrezzy:, Who wants to kill the President or even our governor? Read the second amendment, please. They were wise men back then in comparison to our elected leaders now in office. They knew the danger of an out of control government. Remember the American revolution? Obviously not. Probably went to the public school system where American history has not be taught for years.

NSSgt:

You completely miss Madison's and the founding Fathers' point. Liberty is a God given right that exists prior to the formation of the central government. The people grant the central government specific powers as listed in the Articles of the Constitution. This is a list of what the federal government is allowed to do. It is not granted power to do anything else. Those powers remain the purview of the states. The government gets its power from the people, not vice versa.
Our rights are spelled out so it is clear that these reside within the people. The term people refers to individuals. Our rights are not the collective rights of a community. They are individual rights. Each person has freedom of speech, religion and freedom fro warrant-less searches, just as each person has the right to bear arms. This is the beginning, everything follows from this point.
Your references to killing and coups are extraneous histrionics that are little more than feeble attempts at prior restraint. It does, however reveal a lack of respect for the Constitution and the rights of all Americans. Alarming, coming from someone apparently so preoccupied with over throwing the government

somersrezzy:

when the founding fathers wrote the constitution there were no machine guns or "assault weapons". there were muskets. different technology requires different laws.

as the world changes it is perfectly natural for our laws to change as they have over the last few hundred years. whether you like it or not as opposed to the 1700s, women can vote, slavery has been abolished, search warrant laws have changed, etc. and if you know your history, you will know that rights of speech, religion, freedom for warrant-less searches have all been affected by laws passed and by the courts in the past few hundred years - just as gun laws have changed - legally.

my comments about killing and coups come from the commenters in this article - such as : "It is about allowing the citizens of this once great country to protect themselves from tyrants and an out of control government, kind of like the ones that stand on a podium screaming and yelling that they want to ban guns....." and "The second amendment isn't there for hunting, Gov. It's there so citizens can protect themselves from tyranny-foreign or domestic."

NSSgt:

Machine guns have been illegal for 78 years and "assault weapon" is a meaningless term. So the "founding fathers never considered..." argument is specious. Laws change but rights do not. At least not without serious effort. Slavery was ended by the 13th and 14th Amendments, women can vote because of the 19th Amendment. .These expansions of individual rights followed the tedious amendment process, no small feat. They happened because of overwhelming review and support. Since the 60's however, searches for evidence are more restrictive than when the constitution was written, "Piss Christ" is free speech and the religion has been removed from society for fear of offending any religious minority or atheists. What has "naturally" changed is the ease in which liberty is expanded. Hardly a tradition that can be the basis for limiting gun owners rights. As far as protection from tyranny is concerned, its interesting to ponder how successful the Final Solution would have if Hitler had not first, registered and then disarmed German society.

somersrezzy:

so enlighten me then, with respect to protection from tyranny, at what point is it legal for a private American citizen to decide the US govt or any part of it is "tyranny" and to use its guns against it?

NSSgt:

You continue to try to obfuscate the issue but perhaps you will find this enlightening:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it..."
I sense that you do not understand how scrupulously freedom must be defended so you will probably not be impressed with Jefferson's words, so I will offer some more specific examples. First the demand for the justification of a right is the first level of tyranny. Just as defendant does not have to explain why they remain silent, no one should be required explain why they own a gun. While overthrowing the government is a very unlikely scenario, and at present is is only justified in the heads of jihadists, lunatics and other enemies of freedom, it is possible that future malevolent permutations of our government could evolve. There will be no opportunity to ask for our guns back. In the mean time other tyrannies exist.
Such as the government abandoning American border towns to armed Mexican drug lords; killers armed with guns that our government gave them. The only thing between life and death is the Second Amendment. Or when the government ignores Muslim fanatics in the armed forces who eventually gun down Americans, the Second Amendment is our only protection. When the only response that the Mayor of Chicago can muster to a flood of murders is to ask the drug dealers to conduct their turf wars amongst themselves, people have a right to fight the tyrannies of fear and murder.
None of these scenarios explore the possibilities of the Chinese using debt and cyber attacks to destroy this country or some future president and Senate abdicating our sovereignty to the UN, but the outcome will likely be more favorable to those who can resist being sent to the re-education camps.

Tedneb:

No one needs ten bullets to kill a deer? That would be true...if I cared about deer.

Last fall, a pack of nine coyotes--widespread on my land and in my area--stalked my ten year old daughter and her cocker spaniel to within 40 feet. That threat to my family was neutralized due to my second amendment rights and my 25-round magazine.

So, Mr. Cuomo: please tell me: next time, how many bullets my daughter's life is worth?

zoomie:

Just a Bunch of political BLAH! BLAH! only effect law abinding citizens

NSSgt:

What is the point of more gun laws if they will not be enforced. Federal District Court Judge, Shira A. Scheindlin, is in the process of prohibiting police officers from stopping anyone they suspect of possessing a gun. While perhaps a cliche, it is true that when guns are outlawed, only criminals will have guns. The law abiding citizens will only have funerals.

Fly on the Wall:

Don't ya think you should actually list what his proposals are before asking people to comment? A duh!

cjmesq:

Cuomo is a typical leftist fraud.

If he really wants to save lives, why doesn't just ban abortions?

Oh, he can't.

So what gives him the right to ban or tamp down our 2nd Amendment rights enshrined by our Founders in the Constitution?

The problem here folks is that these so called "progressives" either don't know or don't care about America's founding. And the leftist teachers don't teach our children about the founding, which means they think the Bill of Rights is a Bill of Needs (why do we "need" 30 round clips for our rifle?).

The 2nd Amendment is there for a reason, and we would not have a Constitution without it.

Petfield:

Cuomo was totally grandstanding like a fool!

Vinnygoombada:

Yes! Absolutely right on both. He should be nominated for an academy award.

Vinnygoombada:

Yes! Absolutely right on both. He should be nominated for an academy award.

Vinnygoombada:

Yes! Absolutely right on both. He should be nominated for an academy award.

Vinnygoombada:

Yes! Absolutely right on both. He should be nominated for an academy award.

Vinnygoombada:

Yes! Absolutely right on both. He should be nominated for an academy award.

Vinnygoombada:

Yes! Absolutely right on both. He should be nominated for an academy award.

Vinnygoombada:

Yes! Absolutely right on both. He should be nominated for an academy award.

GoJo73:

What a blow-hard, standing up there on the podium, screaming and yelling like a lunitic.
NY has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. It takes up to 10 months to get a pistol license in Westchester County, that's the longest amount of time in the country!
NYC, along with Chicago and Detroit, have the toughest gun laws of any city in the country, and all three have the highest ILLEGAL gun crimes in the country!!
You can pass all the gun laws you want, but they only effect good, honest citizens. the criminals do not abide by the law.
Oh, and by the way, the 2nd amendment is not about owning a gun for hunting or target shooting. It is about allowing the citizens of this once great country to protect themselves from tyrants and an out of control government, kind of like the ones that stand on a podium screaming and yelling that they want to ban guns.....

Vinnygoombada:

Agreed. Award winning performance. But you know the libs will eat it up, hook line and sinker.

somersrezzy:

do you seriously think it is legal in this country to threaten the governor of a state with guns? there is no legal right to try to topple this government with guns. you will find yourself locked up in jail WITHOUT ANY GUNS if you ever attempt it or even plan it. the 2nd amendment specifically states it is for a militia NOT for personal individuals to decide they don't like the govt and try to take it over.

Vinnygoombada:

Every home in Switzerland has weapons and is expected to be part of the state militia. Why are their children NOT running out of their homes killing each other? Because they are Swiss? Or because they have better values, morals or intelligence?
Further attempts to limit firearms will not solve the problem.

It's a simplistic way of dealing with a more systemic problem in the country that apparently cannot be solved by our government.

Vinnygoombada:

Every home in Switzerland has weapons and is expected to be part of the state militia. Why are their children NOT running out of their homes killing each other? Because they are Swiss? Or because they have better values, morals or intelligence?
Further attempts to limit firearms will not solve the problem.

It's a simplistic way of dealing with a more systemic problem in the country that apparently cannot be solved by our government.

jamesrrobison:

In 2011, 323 murders were committed with a rifle and 356 with a shotgun, while a staggering 496 were committed with hammers and clubs. 1,694 people were killed by "knives or cutting instruments," far more than rifles and shotguns combined. Let's ban knives, hammers, and clubs first, if we really care about helping people!

TallCoolOne49:

I think the governor's proposals are a complete waste of time...we currently have handgun licensing...an "assault weapons" ban...the "compromise" has gone about as far as it can go. Outlaw internet ammunition sales? Require NICS checks for ammunition? More gun owner harassment.

Tazman410:

He like others just don't get it......I got a good question, When you go and purchase a Firearm does it say anywhere in the description that it is an " ASSAULT" weapon? NO it does not....It most likely says for Hunting, Sports, Target, Trap, Recreational use or Home Protection. It does not say for using to " ASSAULT" another individual. That is a choice that a Criminal makes when they ILLEGALLY obtain ANY WEAPON......That is a choice that someone with Mental Issues does, Not a law abiding, responsible person. Love it when he said you don't need 10 rounds to go hunting...Really????? I guess he never been Bear Hunting or Wild Boar hunting. Hope he can run really fast.....How many rounds does a shot gun hold? When you go Duck Hunting how many rounds do you load in? How many rounds do you carry with you?

Everyone is being played like a fiddle by them.....They are using those words "ASSAULT" and "AUTOMATIC".....Strictly to SCARE and FOOL those don't know the differences. Lies and Deceit\. Playing on the fears and Emotions of the Innocent for their own self centered political gain.

toddaclemmer you are spot on.......

Michael John:

Hey Toddaclemmer... You are right on!

toddaclemmer:

"Keep guns from people who are mentally ill" ?

How about:

Keep people who are mentally ill in facilities that keep them from guns like we used to do before progressives started putting them in the streets with pills in their hands?

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